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Kamilion: Eh, thhat clip is about the Adobe founders?īird|otherbox: Sometimes those clones are better than the proprietary one, but the idea was still not conceived by them in most cases Kora9, and yeah - there are some cases where there is innovative software that's proprietary, because it's very narrowly drawn innovationīird|otherbox: Actually, most innovation comes from proprietary softwareīird|otherbox: Open-source things are predominantly clones of proprietary things most of the proprietary stuff is basically solving the same problems over and over again in slightly different waysīird|otherbox: I think that's the nature of evolution of things Pfred1: Once you start to think about that, and the fact that most of these types are for GPL, which isn't free. Personally I'm amazed closed source ecosystems work at all Kamilion: actually, apparently it was a laser printer with closed source that stallman could not write a driver for that was the initial trigger Speaking of free software, is the Windows 10 upgrade still unofficially live? Sounds like me when I don wanna tak a bathĮven through the 80s, we still copied floppies and traded Most open source software are clones of things that were created, ideas conceived, for proprietary software Pfred1: But here where it gets interesting: Open source rarely leads to innovation. I prefer to have source code for most things Kora9: all software WAS once free when hardware cost way too much. Kora9 in the grand scheme of things when you need stuff to work it does help to have the source code Kora9: mostly universities and acedemics all of 'you consumer people' are johhny-come-lately, fucking up their nice untrusted network Pfred1: It tends to be centered around a very aggressive stance that 'all software should be free' that isn't open to pragmatism One of carlin's best explanations, and people really seem to *get* carlin's explanation It's as a separate ecosystem of software politics that developed in a dorm room or something. They have these odd pseudo-communist beliefs that mainly tend to apply to coding and software. Open source commies aren't necessarily political commies. Kamilion: It would appear that i'm wrong! I believe that deer eat amanita mushrooms We used to smoke in this bungalo with cats and when the cats stopped running around we knew we were tuned up Yeah, that border collie looks stoned as hell (yes, I know it's mushrooms)

now imagine a dog's sense of smell, on shroomsĪfter we blew smoke at it for a while it wasn't moving aroudn too much In cities, we kill everything that kills them.

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